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- Mud's version of 'Under the Moon of Love'

Ray Stiles:
We were looking for songs, and I was always into rock & roll, and I found this thing called 'Under the Moon of Love' by Curtis Lee. And we went into the studio and we did it. We were doing an album at the time, and it was obviously going to be one of the tracks but it had real magic. We had Jackie Sullivan and Vicki Brown and Joy Yates and they were doing all these 1960s Vernons Girls type things. Lots of whistles and alarums and it was a real alive record, and the record company chose something else to be a single. Which was 'Night on the Tiles'. 'L-L-Lucy' went out first and that was a hit - top ten here and it was #1 all over Europe - and the next one was 'A Night on the Tiles', quite a heavy thing. And it should have been 'Under the Moon of Love'.

Rob Davis:
Showaddywaddy nicked 'Under the Moon of Love' off us. I think when we went to Private Stock, we wanted to prove we could write. Bands like us were getting slagged off, saying we were puppets and all that sort of thing. So we wanted to go with a couple of our own tunes first. I think 'Under the Moon of Love' was scheduled to be a single at one point, but it didn't happen. We'd done a few covers - I think for our credibility at the time, it was a good move.

Rob Davies
Rob Davies

Ray Stiles:
I don't know whether Dave came down to the studio, Dave Bartram, I can't remember, but I know they heard it from us.

Dave Bartram:
We were never aware of that. I didn't used to listen to Mud albums. The irony of it is that had we known that Mud had recorded it, we probably never would have done it.

Phil Wainman:
I didn't find the song. Mud found the song and said, 'What do you think of this song, Phil?' I said, 'I think it's a smash, let's cut it.' Our version was better than Showaddywaddy's, we made a cracking record. And I got a very negative response from the band. They said, 'We've had a meeting, Phil, and we've outvoted you, we're going with one of our songs next. It's going to be "L-L-Lucy".' I said, 'You're committing professional suicide.'
It was the band's decision. At that time Mud were such a big act, Private Stock would listen to everything that they said: 'We wanna do that' - 'Fine, boys'; 'We wanna do that' - 'Yes, anything you say, boys.' And that's how it was. And unfortunately they kind of blew it.

Ray Stiles:
We used to do it on stage as well, and I will take full credit for that, because I found it. And it was great and it should have been a single because it was better [than Showaddywaddy's version]. They even got the same sax-player to play. Our version is much more alive than theirs, theirs is much more sort of ploddy.

Ray Stiles
Ray Stiles

Dave Bartram:
When I finally did hear it, I didn't feel their version was quite as vibrant as the Showaddywaddy version. I thought it was a bit watered-down.

Phil Wainman:
I ended up working with Showaddywaddy. I told them the whole story and they said thank you very much.

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